Transcript: Interview with Dimitris Avramopoulos

Europe's worst refugee crisis in decades shows no signs of easing. Though the number of refugees landing on European shores has dipped slightly, inflows will no doubt rise in the spring. Borders are closing, governments are squabbling and plans emanating from Brussels seem too ambitious to have any immediate impact. The Economist spoke with Dimitris Avramopoulos, the European Commissioner for migration, home affairs and citizenship, about threats to free movement in Europe, plans to manage the refugee flows and Europe’s responsibility towards migrants. This transcript has been edited for clarity.

The Economist: There is a line being used by many people in the commission: to save Schengen we must apply it. What does that mean?
Dimitris Avramopoulos: Schengen is very clear. Member states must manage their borders and [external] European borders in a way that will not produce any deficiencies. The flows of migrants and refugees are not properly managed. It's not only about Schengen, it's also about how frontline member states are implementing what we decided at the central European level. We all...Continue reading

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